Traditional Dances of the World and Technology

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Comment by Obataladance on December 17, 2011 at 10:56am

Hello everybody ! I am back home after a long trip overseas where i suffered a very bad accident in Greece in the mountains which left me without even been able to walk, for few months. Fortunately i am fine now and with my leg healed which for a dancer is like having her soul returned !!

 Shiram, the mapping of motion to sound may it depend of the kind of sensors used and the values or mathematical algoritms given to each of them. The same applies for the movement accompaining it.

    It depends also which spaces you maybe want to convert into an interactive playground. The amount of possibilities is huge!

  Hello Maria, i do agree totally. We most protect our corporal memories. A tree without roots always is destroyed by the wind! I will be around these days but quite busy. I hope this group can bring across creative projects that can help humanity in the understanding of our bodies and our own self through movements! Saludos !

Comment by Maria Drazheva on April 15, 2011 at 9:23am

Dear Colleagues,

This object in the field of the traditional folklore dance is important and in-continued. According to my point of view as a choreographer we have to find new ways to develop and give dances to next generation.., to save traditional style on contemporary way.

I'm glad if I meet other colleagues share their opinion.

 

Comment by Vangelis Lympouridis on October 12, 2010 at 11:44am

Hello. I am sure there is lots of potential there..As part of my research I have created a system able to address many aspects of design in Whole Body Interaction for Dance and Performances. Instruments can be mapped individually at any part of the body and drive compositional algorithms that take care of the right timing and the pattern structures of each instrument and the whole composition. In this example the BPM was locked at the "Buleria" tempo (A particular Flamenco rhythm) but it can be dynamic also. The problem with dynamic BPM is that is more improvisation oriented rather than addressing a specific traditional structure. In theory most of the traditional dance could be addressed with the system after a short study of their particular structure and sound. Intensity was the key element to relate the movement to sound. One of the videos offer more descriptions about where the sounds were mapped. Try to observe for example the percussion sound linked to the legs of the performer. :-)

Comment by Shriram on October 12, 2010 at 12:17am

fascinating!! Could you tell us some more about the mapping of motion to sound? What kinds of body motions were triggering what kinds of sounds? Was tempo being changed etc?
Its less about knowing how you did it .. rather than more fully understanding and imagining the possibilities.

Comment by Vangelis Lympouridis on October 11, 2010 at 8:11pm

Hello, I have just found this group. That is a great topic! I also believe that there is so much knowledge on traditional dance practice which is excluded from the technological lenses as research or practice. During one of my last collaborations I have worked with a professional Flamenco Dancer, Marisa Dima, on an interactive flamenco system based on a full body tracking system. It was a first study, a proof of concept that can be used to create training systems or choreographed pieces including other performers, musicians and singers. If you want you can watch a couple of videos at my page:
http://www.dance-tech.net/video/duende-a-whole-body
and an older one :
http://www.dance-tech.net/video/interactive-flamenco-inspace
Any feedback would be great!
Keep the discussion. I am very positive at the synergy between tradition and advanced computing. v.

Comment by Obataladance on September 18, 2009 at 6:15am

Michael, I love differences so u are for me an inspiration. Imagine if we all think and behave in the same way, what a boring dead world it will be. I am quite busy at the moment but soon i will be back. All my regards.

Comment by Michael Girard on September 18, 2009 at 5:41am

Lucia, Thanks for your gracious reply. I have also read Faludi's books, and well, at this point, I'm content to let Faludi speak for herself.

In spite of our different perspectives on a number of political and social topics, we both share a love and appreciation for authentic traditional dance and music.

Comment by Obataladance on September 17, 2009 at 12:15pm

Michel thank u very much for the link and u enthusiasm but social issues. I read the book "Backlash.." years ago when still i was a student at the university..in fact the word backlash have become a kind of symbol for a "bad reaction"..In my view this is what feminism is but still i respect you idea. Faludi never been a supporter of feminism. The expresssion of "throwing the baby out with the bad water " is quite commun among the vocabulary of social scientists when refering to professional women who have left aside maternity for a social recognition and status. Faludi used it or took it as a reference because it is known expression but Susan Faludi never have been a feminist neither a supporter herself. Feminism means nothing to the majority of women from around the world...but in one thing i totally agree with u is that of course women should be able to find happiness and fullfilment in both, public and private spaces but also to create new spaces according to their particular needs. The colonization of the body is marked by this duality where the construction of masculin and femenin is negotiated.Fortunately the human experience so complex that cant be enclosed in any general approach...feminism as much as the new spiritualities will always find the challenge of the vast cultural pluralism of the planet.

I am glad that most dancers are not feminists.

Comment by Michael Girard on September 17, 2009 at 8:28am

Lucia, maybe this is not so important, but in an earlier post, I was confused when you mistakenly wrote: "Susan Faludi in her work criticized feminism with her expression " women are throwing away the bath together with the baby "." Thanks to Google, I was able to instantly find the root of your mistake. If you type "Faludi baby out with the bath water" into Google search, the first link listed under "Google books" will take you directly to page 325 of Faludi's book "Backlash."
On page 325, paragraph 2 of her book "Backlash: The Undeclared War Against American Women" , Faludi quotes Sylvia Ann Hewlett's book "A Lesser Life: The Myth of Women's Liberation in America" as saying "Feminism threw the baby out with the bathwater." But, if you read the context, Faludi strongly disagrees with Hewlett . So, to set the record straight: Hewlitt is the anti-feminist who made this statement, not Faludi.

To learn more more Faludi's feminist ideas, you can also watch Faludi's talk at Google on Sept. 11, 2008 see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q_j82L_XSo

p.s. I don't work for Google. :-)

Comment by Obataladance on September 10, 2009 at 8:09am

Michel..I am convinced that "culture" as haven been officially accepted and programmed is a social constructed category for quantifying and labelling but there is also a natural development of "culture" coming from people themselves, people are in my view the real holders of history. The long dilemma between public and private spaces is also part of this dualism in which most individuals have been trapped....The "communitarians" and "libertarians" are turning around in circle coz the answer maybe relies in a "social ingeniering " ( extrange word this one which is quite in vogue among educated circles ) capable of creating enough spaces for everyone...without forgetting all the endless particularities that characterise humans needs.How this turning point will take place in a world which have been controlled and regulated by a dominant aesthetics ? Are we...women and men will able to conquer our spaces back ( conection to nature and to our ancients...respect of our pluralisms ) or will just follow the trend of trusting the good will of those in charge of the rest ? The public space maybe is more open but not necessarily more fair while many vulnerables have been left behind, in private spaces....Creating national ballets in the name of preserving have just left behind many voices...Freedom is to be able to choose among all that is in existence...Susan Faludi was a critic of feminim not a feminist herself...gender, class, race,..are just social constructions.

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